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England has been particularly eager to push through Global Warming initiatives, because they have had huge rainstorms and flooding. This last storm is worse than ever, and Ireland was flooded as well.
Raging floods engulfed northern England's picturesque Lake District on Friday following the heaviest rainfall ever recorded in Britain, killing a police officer and trapping dozens in their swamped homes.

Military helicopters winched dozens of people to safety and emergency workers in bright orange inflatable boats rescued scores more after an unprecedented deluge.

British soldiers conducted house-to-house searches for those trapped by floods as deep as 8 feet (2.5 meters)...

Britain's Met Office said a record 12.3 inches (314.4 millimeter) of rain fell in 24 hours in the area — the heaviest rainfall ever recorded in the U.K.

Cockermouth, a market town 330 miles (530 kilometers) northwest of London, lies at the junction of the Cocker and Derwent rivers and is known as the birthplace of poet William Wordsworth. The flood was "of biblical proportions," local House of Commons lawmaker Tony Cunningham said.

Heavy rain and gales also brought widespread flooding to Ireland, as more than 3 feet (1 meter) of water shut down the center of the country's second-largest city, Cork, and more than a dozen towns and villages. The Irish army was used to rescue the stranded from waist-deep floodwaters and a helicopter winched to safety a County Galway family of five, including the 87-year-old grandmother.

Floods caused transport chaos along Ireland's western coast. At the Lake Hotel, on the shores of the fabled Killarney Lakes in County Kerry, about 170 guests at the Victorian period building were evacuated by tractor, as staff carried period furniture upstairs....

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East Anglia was especially hard hit.
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Posted Friday, November 20, 2009 11:15 PM


 

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Heavy rain and gales also brought widespread flooding to Ireland, as more than 3 feet (1 meter) of water shut down the center of the country's second-largest city, Cork, and more than a dozen towns and villages.

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I wouldn't think it would be a problem since Cork floats.




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East Anglia was especially hard hit.

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Ah yes, Global Warming deniers. I suppose the flooding is just made up too, just like it was in New Orleans.




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"Hundreds of private e-mail messages and documents hacked from a computer server at a British university are causing a stir among global warming skeptics, who say they show that climate scientists conspired to overstate the case for a human influence on climate change.

The e-mail messages, attributed to prominent American and British climate researchers, include discussions of scientific data and whether it should be released, exchanges about how best to combat the arguments of skeptics, and casual comments — in some cases derisive — about specific people known for their skeptical views. Drafts of scientific papers and a photo collage that portrays climate skeptics on an ice floe were also among the hacked data, some of which dates back 13 years.

In one e-mail exchange, a scientist writes of using a statistical “trick” in a chart illustrating a recent sharp warming trend. In another, a scientist refers to climate skeptics as “idiots.”

Some skeptics asserted Friday that the correspondence revealed an effort to withhold scientific information. “This is not a smoking gun; this is a mushroom cloud,” said Patrick J. Michaels, a climatologist who has long faulted evidence pointing to human-driven warming and is criticized in the documents."

"At first, said Dr. Michaels, the climatologist who has faulted some of the science of the global warming consensus, his instinct was to ignore the correspondence as “just the way scientists talk.”

But on Friday, he said that after reading more deeply, he felt that some exchanges reflected an effort to block the release of data for independent review.

He said some messages mused about discrediting him by challenging the veracity of his doctoral dissertation at the University of Wisconsin by claiming he knew his research was wrong. “This shows these are people willing to bend rules and go after other people’s reputations in very serious ways,” he said."
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Ah yes, Global Warming deniers. I suppose the flooding is just made up too, just like it was in New Orleans.


Perhaps it will be news to you, however flooding has been around a whole lot longer than AGW. Can you show a strong likelyhood that is "flooding" would not happen if it were not for the influence of humans? Of course not.

And as Mr Forward's link indicates, AGW science is tainted.

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England has been particularly eager to push through Global Warming initiatives, because they have had huge rainstorms and flooding.



If we could just find a way to mix in some toothpaste with all that water....



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"Less than half the population believes that human activity is to blame for global warming, according to an exclusive poll for The Times.

The revelation that ministers have failed in their campaign to persuade the public that the greenhouse effect is a serious threat requiring urgent action will make uncomfortable reading for the Government as it prepares for next month’s climate change summit in Copenhagen.

Only 41 per cent accept as an established scientific fact that global warming is taking place and is largely man-made. Almost a third (32 per cent) believe that the link is not yet proved; 8 per cent say that it is environmentalist propaganda to blame man and 15 per cent say that the world is not warming.

Tory voters are more likely to doubt the scientific evidence that man is to blame. Only 38 per cent accept it, compared with 45 per cent of Labour supporters and 47 per cent of Liberal Democrat voters.

The high level of scepticism underlines the difficulty the Government will have in persuading the public to accept higher green taxes to help to meet Britain’s legally binding targets to cut carbon emissions by 34 per cent by 2020 and 80 per cent by 2050.

The recession appears to have made tackling climate change less of a priority for many people. Only just over a quarter (28 per cent) think that it is happening and is “far and away the most serious problem we face as a country and internationally”, while just over half (51 per cent) think it is “a serious problem, but other problems are more serious”."
From The Times
November 14, 2009

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Sandra (11/21/2009)
Ah yes, Global Warming deniers. I suppose the flooding is just made up too, just like it was in New Orleans.




Perhaps it will be news to you, however flooding has been around a whole lot longer than AGW. Can you show a strong likelyhood that is "flooding" would not happen if it were not for the influence of humans? Of course not.



And as Mr Forward's link indicates, AGW science is tainted.

Sandi


Yes, I know that flooding has happened, but not on this scale and this often. England never used to get such floods. You can make things up anyway you want, but the fact is that glaciers and the polar ice is melting. There has been scientific evidence for many years that there is a green house effect from the emissions - CO2, etc. from cars, power plants and other human-made causes. But there are so many deniers that just refuse to accept the truth. Partly because oil companies have paid people to go out and spread lies.



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"Czech physicist Lubos Motl identified a few juicy morsels from the emails, including one in which the University of East Anglia CRU's Phil Jones writes to U.S. atmospheric scientist (and realist) John Christy:
...If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isn't being political, it is being selfish. Cheers, Phil
Indeed, selfishness appears to be at the heart of much of the alarmism movement. Motl discovers money transfer methods and tax evasion schemes, as well as Jones's well-funded endeavors over the years:
So far, the most interesting file I found...shows that since 1990, Phil Jones has collected staggering 13.7 million British pounds ($22.6 million) in grants."
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